WorkBee Firmware Releases

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the question.

We do not include post processors for Rhino3D.

Let me know if you have additional questions!

Hi Stacey,

Please contact us here https://ooznest.co.uk/help/ where we will be able to assist you further.

Thanks.

Hi Mieko,

If you complete this guide from Step 8 onwards here: How To Update WorkBee Firmware V1.0.7 > V3.3.0-1.2

It will overwrite you newer firmware version that you have installed from Duet.

Thanks

Doh, should have checked the fan voltage!!

Ah, 45 years in IT an no idea what DM means!

Understood.

I have the machine working now, just have to re-install the spindle and the Laser driver and head and ready to try it out! I will let you know how I get on.

Many thanks,

Richard.

Hi @robertooznest It was my message but thanks for that! Makes a lot more sense then.

@rmark1 Then we are all good in the hood, but don’t just copy paste over the whole code, go though what references your size to make sure you don’t accidentally make it a 1500x1500 like mine ;)

With DM I meant a Direct Message - Click on my user name and my profile pops up then we can carry on writing without adding to this thread and share info :) At least that looks like a possibility, have not tried it yet.

Hi @feedrate,

Mine was screw from the start (750 x 1000). I have extended it to 750 x 1500. Hope this works OK as Oooznest don’t seem to offer that size :)

Thanks for your help and offer of future help, most kind.

Excuse my ignorance, what is a “DM”?

Cheers,

Richard.

Hi Richard,

I can confirm you are on the latest version of our firmware. WorkBee Control 3.3.0 - V1.2 tells me that.

Duet have just released a new version 3.4, but we are sticking with 3.3 for now.

Robert

So here’s what I see when looking at the GUI - Seems to me that I’ve updated to the latest, but I must say that I’ve always been confused by the versions. Looking at below I’m updated to the latest, files are updated end December. So perhaps I missed a step or my common sense ( @robertooznest should the firmware not have been updated with the below info?) I get that RRF 3 is different, at least this is the Duet pages states but these pages just don’t make much sense to me without studying it in depth.

General = WorkBee Control 3.3.0 - V1.2

Last software reset at 2021-12-26 11:16, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 13296, slot 2

Board: Duet 2 WiFi (2WiFi)

Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2

WiFi/Ethernet 3.3 (2021-06-15)

Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.26System

Settings Version: 1.2

@rmark1

I also have an original 2018 model. I’ve upgraded it to lead screws however so please pay attention to this. Suggest that you write a DM when you get started, I’m keen to see where you end up, and if I can help I will.

Hi Kenneth,

It would be great if you could check, always better to have all the info :). I will update when I have it all working. It may take a while as I am currently upgrading my WorkBee (an old 2018 version) so that I can cut 1220mm balsa sheets.

Cheers,

Richard.

Hi @rmark1, Yep that’s the code that is running on my machine.

It’s been a while since I’ve looked at it, but it does work just fine. Also sure I had the Firmware updated back in dec... I can have a look when I’m home to double check - Would be interested to learn from you what you find regarding this as well!

Cheers,

Kenneth

Part 2

M669 K0 X1:0:0:0 Y0:1:0:1 Z0:0:1:0 ; enable Y speed for U axis

G1 H1 X{move.axes[0].max*2} F300 ; move slowly to X axis endstops once more (second pass)

G1 H1 Z{move.axes[2].max*2} F300 ; move slowly to Z axis endstop once more (second pass)

G92 X{move.axes[0].max} Y{move.axes[1].max} Z{move.axes[2].max} ; Set Home Position

G90 ; absolute positioning

config-axes-calibration.g

; Axes Calibration configuration executed by config.g

M92 X400 Y400 U400 Z400 ; Set steps per mm

config-axes-endstops.g

; Endstop configuration executed by config.g

M574 X2 P"!xstop" S1 ; Set active low X endstop

M574 Y2 P"ystop" S1 ; Set active low Y endstop

M574 U2 P"e1stop" S1 ; Set active low U endstop

M574 Z2 P"!zstop" S1 ; Set active low Z endstop

config-axes-limits.g

; Axes Limits configuration executed by config.g

M208 X0 Y0 U0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima (ADDED U Axis 211225)

M208 X1311 Y1245 U1245 Z120 ; Set axis maxima (ADDED U Axis 211225)

Hi,

See below (2 Parts), but it is for our old firmware

Homeall.g

; homeall.g

; called to home all axes

G91 ; relative positioning

G21 ; Set units to mm

G1 H1 Z{move.axes[2].max*2} F900 ; move quickly to Z axis endstop and stop there (first pass)

G1 H1 X{move.axes[0].max*2} F2400 ; move quickly to X axis endstops and stop there (first pass)

G1 H1 Y{move.axes[1].max*2} F2400 ; move quickly to Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)

G92 X{move.axes[0].max} Y{move.axes[1].max} Z{move.axes[2].max} ; Set Home Position

M584 P4 ; set 4 axis CNC

M669 K0 X1:0:0:0 Y0:1:0:0 U0:0:0:1 Z0:0:1:0 ; enable speed for U axis

G1 X-3 Y-5 U-5 F2400 ; go back a few mm in X Y and U

G1 Z-3 F900 ; go back a few mm in Z

G1 H1 Y{move.axes[1].max*2} U{move.axes[3].max*2}F300 ; move slowly both Y and U axis enstops and stop there (second pass)

G1 U-0.1 F150 ; fully align gantry IMPORTANT move only in negative direction (select Y or U and change accordingly)

G92 Y{move.axes[1].max} U{move.axes[3].max} ; set Y and U home Position

M584 P3 ; set 3 axis CNC

Hi Mike,

It is because your file has the following line in it:

G53G0Z-5.000

If you just remove that it will work.

Robert

Hi Robert,

Thanks! Your quick reply and that you picked it up to Dev. is the reason why I got a WorkBee back in 2018 and why I’m sticking with it still to this day. Keep the updates coming :) I’ll happily be a guinea pig for further development, sign me up!

Yes connecting it to the PSU would be better to kill power, rather than a software-based estop.

Hi Robert,

All good, hope it’s useful to others as well. And thanks for the help! Still haven’t figured out how to enable pins for the old SW emergency stop, but perhaps I should connect it to the power supply anyway, just need time to do so.

Hi Kenneth,

Thanks for your comment. Well done on getting it working.

Thanks for sending me the code, I will take a look at it and see if we can turn it into a mini guide for future users who want to upgrade.

Robert

@robertooznest Success, works like a charm as long as you also set the U axis parameters in a few other files and temperately performs a M669 so the U axis has the same speed as Y.

I can’t add all the code in here so I mailed it to your sales mail and hope you will get it somehow. The home changes are (not the full code);

Homeall.g

M584 P4 ; set 4 axis CNC

M669 K0 X1:0:0:0 Y0:1:0:0 U0:0:0:1 Z0:0:1:0 ; enable speed for U axis

G1 X-3 Y-5 U-5 F2400 ; go back a few mm in X Y and U

G1 Z-3 F900 ; go back a few mm in Z

G1 H1 Y{move.axes[1].max*2} U{move.axes[3].max*2}F300 ; move slowly both Y and U axis enstops and stop there (second pass)

G1 U-0.1 F150 ; fully align gantry IMPORTANT move only in negative direction (select Y or U and change accordingly)

G92 Y{move.axes[1].max} U{move.axes[3].max} ; set Y and U home Position

M584 P3 ; set 3 axis CNC

M669 K0 X1:0:0:0 Y0:1:0:1 Z0:0:1:0 ; enable Y speed for U axis

And importantly these also have to be changed;

config-axes-calibration.g

config-axes-endstops.g

config-axes-limits.g

@robertooznest Nearly ready to go should be able to do my first runs tomorrow. But; I’ve run into a issue now with setting up the U endstop - as I have the SW E-stop and the XYZ probe installed. So all the “endstop” connections where used up, To mitigate that I’ve mapped the U stop in place of the E-stop (on “E1 Stop) but that’s not a good option for me since the E-stop is gold worth for me :)

The issue is that I’ve been completely unsuccessful in mapping other pins as the U endstop or when I’ve tried remapping the E-stop. I’ve just tried to map the E-Stop to E6 Step pin, but that failed and now my Workbee is in a emergency stop loop that can’t get out of - Will reset the board tomorrow and start over.

Do you have a suggestion to re-map the SW E-stop somewhere else? Of course the issue is me, I thought I got the new logic of setting up pins but apparently I do not :)

@robertooznest Brilliant. Many thanks! I’ve just designed a sensor holder that can go on top of the Y Cbeams and trigger on the 6mm plates on the ends of the X axis, I’ll give it a go when possible, most likely between Christmas and new years, then let you know!

Hi Kenneth,

On our latest firmware, the Y by default is already split out into a Y & U axis. You will just need to adjust the homing file to first turn the machine into a 4 axis machine. Then home Y and U individually, then put it back again.

So I think if you put this at the start of the homing file:

M584 P4

That will then show the U-Axis.

Just add a U axis to all the homing commands. Then at the end put:

M584 P3

I think that should do it (But I have no tested it)

Thanks

Robert

And just FYI: Looks like I’m late to the party, someone implemented it in 2018: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/4669/oozn...

I’m super keen on this, sometime I really need the precision and don’t see why I can’t achieve this with a properly fixed in place=sturdy base for the WorkBee. Any word of advice or suggestions before I try it out? And should I take this discussion somewhere else?

Hi sebastien chedal-bornu,

Guess something like that yes. For setup I suspect that a “standard home” triggered by the main Y sensor first, followed by the second home on the secondary sensor with both motors active. It’s different for the models, for my 1500x1500, each Y axis can move a lot separately without major issue, but expect that the smaller models do not being more rigid, so while you might need separate homing, I expect that it would be beneficial to have both Y motors running for each/every home cycle.

Then comes the potential issues with using the sensors as I know from the original kit (the box standard mechanical ones), they do not have enough tolerance to accommodate bigger movements without having to be super spot one from the get go, so perhaps a proximity sensor, inductive, would be better?

Well just a thought, sorry for adding it all in here - Don’t seem to be a forum for this. If I’m wrong correct me.

to do that i think you need to declare your second Y axis as U and linked it to the second limit switch.

Then on the Y homing you can move both Y and U until you hit the limits. maybe check on the mpcnc i think i remember they did it a while ago.

If you have RRF3.3 or more you can use variables and it would be easier.

@robertooznest Cheers for that!

Hi Kenneth,

Thanks for your comment.

1. At the moment you can’t rename the Work Coordinates.

2. Thanks for the feedback we will take this on board in the next release

3. Thanks for the feedback on this also, it does not say this anywhere yet.

Best Regards

Robert

Hi,

Yes we are working on it.

Ryan

Hi Mauricio,

Thanks for yourcomment. I am afraid it isn’t.

Best Regards

Ryan Lock

Hi John,

Thanks for your comment.

Have you installed the Fusion Post Processor?

Instructions to do this, can be found here: How To Set up a Job on the WorkBee CNC Machine

Best Regards

Ryan Lock

1.07.3 was just a minor setting change to match the WorkBee’s we ship.

Hi Mateus, we have made contact with FreeCAD as we do not have any experience with this program as of yet. Once we have a response I will keep the Learning Portal updated.

I meant the blue section, it was only the green section which has that warning. I have re-worded it to make it clearer.

You mean the step that explicitly says “Do not do this step if you have the ethernet version.” on my ethernet version?

Hi Mateus,

Everything is there to get the WorkBee working. I think you have missed off the blue step here: 3. Connecting, Updating and Configuring Your WorkBee

The 2.03 is the RepRapFirmware version. 1.07 is the WorkBee Firmware version. The latest version to use is displayed at the top of this page.

Nope, duet 3 needs reprapfirmware v3 at least.

But honestly it's not that complicated to create your own configuration especially with the configurator from reprap. And after that you can customize the config.g with the help of the one included in this package.

But whatever you do you will have to to setup your motors and limit switches.

I really think it's best to read and understand the config then you will create your own.

Just use small values of current not to burn your steppers (800mah) and test it with motors alone not mounted and use a piece of adhesive tape to see the steppers moving correctly.

And when you connect once mounted do it motor per motor and for the y axis always leave only one motor connected in case you have to reverse it.

Hi,

Can you email sales@ooznest.co.uk with a screenshot of your current settings and we can sort it there.

Best Regards

Ryan Lock

Hi Ryan

Not sure what I would need to change in the machine specific tab tbh.

Thanks

Richard

Hi Tim, Thanks for your comment. It is inside the 1.0.7 or greater firmware download

Hi Tom, At the moment i am afraid there isn’t a way to assign Macros. For the touch probe you can now use the touch probe panel.

Actually, after some poking around I was able to find the Prob Z macro from before. It was in a sub directory in the macro directory. I tried it and it still works. That should hold me until I recieve the XYZ touch plate.

Thank you

Tom

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your email. Can you trying wiring it in and using it as per this guide: Assembling Your Original WorkBee XYZ Touch Probe

Best Regards

Ryan Lock

Hi Andrew, did you want to email me at sales@ooznest.co.uk with a screenshot of what your screen currently looks like? Ryan

Hi Andrew, you can leave the new config files at 1.07, i think that should be ok. Ryan

There are two different things: the firmware and the web server. The first one is what control the board. The second is configured by the content of the www folder. So you can just put e content of the v1.06 www folder into your sdcard even if with a 1.07 version installed.

Hi Andrew, sorry to hear you are unhappy with the UI, we are a bit surprised you are so disappointed as we have heard mostly good things about it. To switch back you just need to install the Web Control from version 1.06 or below.

Hi Dave, Thanks for your message, i have fixed the link. It should now be working on your end. If not here it is: 3. Connecting, Updating and Configuring Your WorkBee

Crap I just realize that I wrote craps, I'm using g28 to home. I don't like the g1h1.

I would have write that I use g92 to change the machine coordinate. I use this on some jobs on the z axis after the zprobe when I need a specific offset (I did that only for my job to prepare the martyr).

For my jobs I modified the fusion 360 mpcnc post processor and what I do is set the starting position as the zero on x and y for g55, then switch to g54 and will go to a specific position to perform a zprobe so I can handle tool changes.

And this way if I noted the xy coordinates at start I may redo if I want.

I thought of using Dave coordinates but I have to check how long can it be stocked, with our without power off….

I kinda disagree with you as home is the root of all workspaces g54 up to g59.x

I personally use g92 for homing and g10 to set offsets for my workspaces.

And more important is that it allows me to works in negative coordinates in g55 while keeping the stay in the limits option.

And honestly, I use the firmwares provided by Rian as a helpful first configuration and do my own version. And now if I want to upgrade I do it directly from duet

Great, cool I will get the config files then and update them to suit.

Just a suggestion, keep the name of the firmware with version so people know .

But good job and thanks.

Hi,

Ours follow the standard RepRapFirmware. We just modify the macros and system settings to suit our needs. 1.04 uses 2.03 Beta1

Ryan

Hi Andrew,

Ok that would be a setting in Fusion360 to add that. We mostly use Vectric, and that adds it in.

Can you send an email to sales@ooznest.co.uk, we have a guy who mainly uses Fusion360 and he should be able to help.

Ryan

hi, the machine home is top right, i use templates for my work loads, so i zero my machine at the top right and negative them down, this works fine when the machine is set to work coordinates and not machine that part is fine, this issue i am having is only with the fact the gcode on the gerbal base board would lift the tool to the retract hieght before moving in x and y with the install of the duet board the generator tries to move to the retract height while moving across the work damaging some of it, at the moment i am editing the .nc files to add G0 Z22 at the start to get the machine to lift out of the way first. i dont know how to get fusion to do this if its possible at all with out editing the file set from ooznest for fusion but i also dont know how to do that either. if anyone know how to make it do that type the code i need to change and the line number i need to put it in and ill sort it. cheers

Hi,

Thanks for your comment. Your G-Code doesn’t look correct as it has negative values. Where is your WorkZero in your CAM Program?

Ryan

Hi, Yes it loads through a web browsers, so is compatible with any device. Ryan

I have not used a MAC to access the Duet, but it is just a Web front end, it should work in any Web browser. I have used Firefox and Chrome, no difference in what you can see or do.

Hi Colin,

Yes that is an error in the video. 1.0.3 is the correct version. Thanks for pointing this out.

Best Regards

Ryan Lock

Hi Dave,

That is strange the button has disappeared, can you send some screenshots to sales@ooznest.co.uk?

Best Regards

Ryan Lock